Faded, Jaded Mandarin ([info]nvonflue) wrote,

From comets to comics.

So my daughter was looking up "Comets"  yesterday, and we got out the trusty ol' One volume Illustrated World Encyclopedia. Something like this one. Edited by one Roger Bobley, it seems.

While reading about Comets, my eyes fell over another entry on the same page. Namely, "Comics". This is an area I have some passing interest in so, let's read it, shall we?!



ZOINKS! wha?! Let's look at that last part again!



This entry indeed has uprooted my monocle! There's a veritable LOAD of crazy information I never knew about comics and their ill affects on our children's eyes and ears!

To continue:



Okay, at least they righted themselves, with some facts. I hope they keep it up...



Uh-oh, here comes the dream dust again! And hey, as an aside, 45,000,000 copies a month in 1961!?!  Maybe these guys oughta think about going back to being irresponsible!

Pick your own gem from this, but one of my favorites is "There is nothing real about the stories in such comic books, and for that reason, grownups are often against them and children love them" I mean that sounds like a throwaway line from the Narmia books! amazing!

I could go through this line by line, but one thing is for sure. I'm cross referencing my daughters "comet" answers. Thanks Mr. Bobley!

If you're so inclined, or are one of those people who demand "facts", I uploaded a regular scan of the page in it's entirety. So's you didn't think I made this up. That'd just be too "comic book-y" (Did I use that right?)

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[info]nabbit

April 19 2007, 14:27:05 UTC 5 years ago

That's hilarious, how old is the book?

[info]nvonflue

April 19 2007, 14:32:46 UTC 5 years ago

1966 is the last printing date, but it goes back to 1954. I'm fairly certain that the entry was never amended, and it reads as if Ol' Dr. Wertham was the one who originally wrote it for them!

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[info]nvonflue

April 19 2007, 15:40:01 UTC 5 years ago

suddenly Wiki doesn't seem so bad.

HA!

[info]pvenables

April 19 2007, 15:22:39 UTC 5 years ago

Wow. How surreal. I like the contradiction inherent in the writeup wherein it begins by saying that the poor art and writing "do not help children learn to appreciate fine art and literature" and later that they "appeal to both the eye (the pictures) and the ear (the words)."

I guess they wouldn't see it as a contradiction, though, because it is through my modern perspective that I associate aesthetic enjoyment with quality.

[info]nvonflue

April 19 2007, 15:41:24 UTC 5 years ago

ear (the words) is my new favorite phrase.

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[info]sidmead

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[info]williamgeorge

April 19 2007, 15:35:54 UTC 5 years ago

Man, that's a blog-able entry there.

[info]nvonflue

April 19 2007, 15:42:12 UTC 5 years ago

Blog away! Make it poplar!

[info]fnordius

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[info]ericfmyers

April 19 2007, 16:17:58 UTC 5 years ago

Lesson: Comics should become evil again. Then they would sell more.

[info]nvonflue

April 19 2007, 16:39:21 UTC 5 years ago

WORD.

[info]tymmi

April 19 2007, 19:58:55 UTC 5 years ago

and...?

I don't know what the problem is. It all seems right to me.

[info]nvonflue

April 20 2007, 04:03:30 UTC 5 years ago

Re: and...?

I'll wait patiently until one of the sentences present in this show up as the tagline of your blog.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

April 20 2007, 00:49:07 UTC 5 years ago

Pick your own gem from this

This entry indeed has uprooted my monocle! There's a veritable LOAD of crazy information I never knew about comics and their ill affects on our children's eyes and ears!



Jeff Knooren
Super Unit 5000

[info]nvonflue

April 20 2007, 04:04:46 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Pick your own gem from this

Tut-TUT!

[info]seian

April 20 2007, 02:08:41 UTC 5 years ago

Don't worry, I bet they got rid of the Flat Earth theory by that edition.

[info]nvonflue

April 20 2007, 04:04:11 UTC 5 years ago

Believe it or not, it's still in there!

[info]seian

5 years ago

[info]yhancik

April 20 2007, 19:01:36 UTC 5 years ago

haha, nice find !

the fav quote completely reminds me of a friend's mother who forbid her to read comics in which things weren't "real"

where's the fun in that ? :p

Anonymous

April 20 2007, 19:17:00 UTC 5 years ago

There's always Doonsbury

All the kids love reading Doonsbury. Or, those illustrations in the New Yorker. Comedy gold my friend.

[info]arfies

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Anonymous

April 20 2007, 20:07:21 UTC 5 years ago

Bwa!

Jeez... I guess nobody told the entry's author about D.H. Lawrence. Comics equal bad. Literature is greater than or equal to good. Death to all comics!

Anonymous

April 20 2007, 20:48:34 UTC 5 years ago

Here's entry for "encyclopedia"

"It has been shown that encyclopedias can do a lot of harm. Many of them contain facts that do not exist, which is why adults love them because they can use them to justify taking their children's comic books away. They appeal to the mind (with their pseudo-intellectual word pictures) and to the heart (with their false sense of truth). In recent years, encyclopedias have been making their articles more believable, but there are many editors who are not so honest. Many schools and libraries has encyclopedias that are enjoyable to read but will give a lot of misinformation."

[info]omokage

April 20 2007, 20:49:43 UTC 5 years ago

hey whaddya know, you got boinged :)

[info]omokage

April 20 2007, 20:51:56 UTC 5 years ago

hmm. methinks this is good fodder for a Wikipedia edit on the Comics article

[info]nvonflue

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[info]celebritymedium

April 21 2007, 00:00:10 UTC 5 years ago

Mythology, past and present

When I read stuff from the past like this, which seems laughable to us, I always wonder what we commonly believe today which will seem ridiculous to people in fifty years.

[info]lypanov

April 21 2007, 22:46:47 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Mythology, past and present

The gaming myths (e.g, the insane impulse to blame games for Virginia Tech by some people) no doubt...

Anonymous

April 22 2007, 00:57:15 UTC 5 years ago

Comics are STILL evil.

While perusing the Criminal Code of Canada, I found that comics can be considered so bad, they're banned by law.

Under Section 163, Corrupting Morals, part (b) states:

(1) Every one commits an offence who
(b) makes, prints, publishes, distributes, sells or has in his possession for the purpose of publication, distribution or circulation a crime comic.

A crime comic is defined as:

(7) In this section, "crime comic" means a magazine, periodical or book that exclusively or substantially comprises matter depicting pictorially
(a) the commission of crimes, real or fictitious; or
(b) events connected with the commission of crimes, real or fictitious, whether occurring before or after the commission of the crime.

Holy cow! Comics so evil as to be banned by law. Obviously, the lawmakers read your fascinating article.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/ShowDoc/cs/C-46/bo-ga:l_IV::bo-ga:l_V//en?page=4&isPrinting=false#codese:163

Anonymous

April 29 2007, 19:05:08 UTC 5 years ago

yes

Yes, comic books must have been evil. Look how terrible the world is today. These things would not have happened if we heeded the warning!

We should all go back to living like we did in the 1950s. You know, I was a child then, but *nothing bad* ever happened back then. They only had that little racial discrimination and class discrimination problem, and it was wonderful because all the women stayed home and took care of the kids. They did have that little problem in southeast Asia around then, but it wasn't a big problem.

Just think of how better we'd have all been if those evil comic books hadn't corrupted the minds of our youth! Yes, we'd all be happily living in our bomb shelters, eating our Wonder Bread, fighting communists and mindlessly watching Ed Sullivan on the TV!
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